Gehenna revisited

I wrote at the end of my last post

“God’s Justice is that those who refused Him will be put in a place where they can be their own God and cannot damage the Kingdom. All the angels that revolted will be put there also.”

I wrote this because of Matthew 25:41

Mat 25:41 “Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.

Some people argue that a Loving God would not send people into this fire. There are 2 different doctrines, universal reconciliation and the other is annihilationism. Annihilationism states that human souls will be destroyed. There is however one little problem, and that is the spirit of man   comes from God’s breath and God cannot destroy Himself.

The believers of Universal Reconciliation believe  that God will punish unbelievers for  a short time then let them into the Kingdom of God. The one major problem I have with that is that it nullifies the Christ’s work on the cross. No matter how it is sliced and diced, Jesus’ sacrifice on the cross will be for nothing. God the Father sacrificed Jesus for a reason. Jesus died to take the sins of the world on His shoulders. As Paul says, through one man sin came into the world then through one man reconciliation can take place.

This is what the scriptures say.

Joh 1:12 But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Joh 1:13 who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
Joh 3:15 that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
Joh 3:16 “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
Joh 3:17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.
Joh 3:18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

In those verses is the condition, “Who believes in His name…..” Sure Jesus took all the sins of the world on His shoulders but the only beneficiaries of this are those who “believe on His name.” Those that do not believe on His name do not benefit from His work on the cross and have to pay for their own sins.

Some people think that eternal fire is too long since there is no infinite sin. This is incorrect logic since Sin is rebellion against God and this is infinite. Those that hate God will hate God forever. Why should God let anybody into His house who hates Him. They will only cause trouble just as Lucifer caused trouble by persuading 1/3 of the angels to follow him. Man being higher than angels will cause even more trouble. Gehenna or the lake of fire was created to stop rebellious humans and angels from ever causing trouble again. God will protect those who love Him against those who hate Him and that is why Gehenna.

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God is Just

In the last post I wrote that God is Love and He cannot help it since it is His nature. However this Love is not the sentimental, gooey, romantic kind of Love. It is Love driven by the will not by emotion. God however does have compassion also which is love driven by emotion. We read in Corinthians what God’s kind of Love is.

1Co 13:4  Love is patient and kind; love does not envy or boast; it is not arrogant
1Co 13:5  or rude. It does not insist on its own way; it is not irritable or resentful;
1Co 13:6  it does not rejoice at wrongdoing, but rejoices with the truth.
1Co 13:7  Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
People will tell you what to do because “They Love You”. No they don’t love you – they want to be your boss. People can be obsessed with you but they don’t love you since they don’t follow the above. God does not insist we follow Him. There are consequences if we don’t and this is about His Justice.

Deu_10:18  He executes justice for the fatherless and the widow, and loves the sojourner, giving him food and clothing.
Deu_16:19  You shall not pervert justice. You shall not show partiality, and you shall not accept a bribe, for a bribe blinds the eyes of the wise and subverts the cause of the righteous.
Deu_16:20  Justice, and only justice, you shall follow, that you may live and inherit the land that the LORD your God is giving you.
Deu_24:17  “You shall not pervert the justice due to the sojourner or to the fatherless, or take a widow’s garment in pledge,
Deu_27:19  “‘Cursed be anyone who perverts the justice due to the sojourner, the fatherless, and the widow.’ And all the people shall say, ‘Amen.’
Deu_32:4  “The Rock, his work is perfect, for all his ways are justice. A God of faithfulness and without iniquity, just and upright is he.
A small sample of what God expects.

God may love us while we breathe air on this earth but when death overtakes us then He must execute His Justice.

Eze_18:20  The soul who sins shall die.

If you have put your faith in Jesus you are safe. if not you are not safe. God the Father had Jesus His Son executed on your behalf. If you have refused this Grace then you only have yourself to blame for the consequences. God the Father has to put His love for those who trusted Him as priority for those who refused His love. When you are sentenced, He will still have Love for you but this Love is secondary because He has to do the very best for those who had Faith in Him and His Son.

God’s Justice is that those who refused Him will be put in a place where they can be their own God and cannot damage the Kingdom. All the angels that revolted will be put there also.

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God Is Love

1Jn 4:8  Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love.
1Jn 4:16  So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him.
1Jn 4:18  There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

For the vast majority of people and except for two circumstances God LOVES You and will love you until the day you physically die.

1Ti_1:15  The saying is trustworthy and deserving of full acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am the foremost. <—- Paul was a murderer and he was still saved. For the majority of people it doesn’t matter what your sin is, God still Loves you because God is Love. He cannot help loving you. He loves all of His creation. You cannot say, “God doesn’t Love me.” The Bible emphatically says that He loves you until the end. Even in the end He still loves you but because of His Justice He needs to sentence you.

If you do not think that God loves you then guess where those thoughts come from. It is the devil whispering in your ear. “Look what you have done – God cannot possibly love you after that.” There you go sinning again, God is really beginning to hate you.” All these thought are from the devil, not God. God is Love and I repeat that God cannot stop loving you.

The ironic part about God’s Love is that there are Christians who doubt God’s Love. They are supposed to read the Bible and the verses above specifically say, “God is Love.” The is a great song call “Amazing Love”. This is one line of lyrics.

Amazing love,
How can it be
That You, my King, should die for me?
Amazing love,
I know it’s true.
It’s my joy to honor You,
In all I do, I honor You.

It took Chris Tomlin a bit of time to work out that God loves him. I do realize that head knowledge is not the same as heart knowledge (revelation) but we could quicken up the operation by accepting that God Loves us because He cannot help it. Sometimes I have doubts about God’s love for me but very quickly (minutes) realize that the devil is speaking to me. My circumstances have nothing to do with God’s love for me but are a direct result of the devil hating me.

 

What are those two conditions above that will result in God not forgiving you. The first is Blaspheming the Holy Spirit. The religious leaders of Jesus’ time said that his power came from the devil. That is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit. Jesus said NO FORGIVENESS.

The other condition is hardness of heart. If a person lacks conscience and increases his/her sin then the heart becomes harder and harder until even God’s love cannot break through. These type of people would not be reading this Blog so if you are reading this then you won’t have this hardness of heart problem.  :))

God is Love. Jesus died so you can be saved from your sins. You are not an exception – He still loves you. It is Amazing Love and Amazing Grace. Paul wrote it this way.

Rom 8:35  Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or danger, or sword?
Rom 8:36  As it is written, “For your sake we are being killed all the day long; we are regarded as sheep to be slaughtered.”
Rom 8:37  No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us.
Rom 8:38  For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers,
Rom 8:39  nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

God is Love and HE WANTS YOU.

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Revelation of John

Mat 25:13  Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour.

Many people don’t think it is worthwhile to know anything about the last days. Some think because they are doing their Christian stuff that when Jesus returns He will praise them and some will be correct about that. The above verse precedes the parable of the talents. However their will be many who won’t be doing their Christian stuff. The will tell you that they are doing their Christian stuff and you may even think they are but they are not. Jesus says, “Watch therefore…” so He is telling us to watch. With that in mind I just would like to summarize John’s Revelation starting with Chapter 6.

We begin with Jesus opening the Seven Seals.

1. White horse, rider with a bow but no arrows and a conqueror.

2. Red horse, great sword and war.

3. Black horse, famine and inflation

4. Pale horse, death by sword, plague and wild animals which is interesting in itself.

5. Great persecution – the saints are beheaded. They will probably be blamed for the first 4 seals.

6. Great calamity like an earthquake plus. The unbelievers cower. They know God is doing it all.

7. Power is now handed over to the Seven Trumpets.

We have Seven angels blowing seven trumpets.

1. 1/3 of the earth is burned

2. 1/3 of the sea creatures died + ships destroyed.

3. Water made bitter and people die.

4. 1/3 of the incoming light will stopped

5. Only people without God’s seal will be harmed. People in pain but no death. Maybe nerve gas.

6. 1/3 of mankind killed.

7. The 7th trumpet signals a time for praise in Heaven. I believe that this will be the rapture of the Saints.

Rev 11:18  The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth.”
Rev 11:19  Then God’s temple in heaven was opened, and the ark of his covenant was seen within his temple. There were flashes of lightning, rumblings, peals of thunder, an earthquake, and heavy hail.

Also Paul says 1Co 15:52  in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, and the dead will be raised imperishable, and we shall be changed.
The LAST TRUMPET which I think is the 7th trumpet above in Revelation.

The Seven Bowls.

1. Painful sores on those with the Mark of the Beast

2. Every living thing in the sea died.

3. All fresh water becomes blood.

4. The sun scorches the earth.

5. Total darkness descends on the earth.

6. Armies assemble at Armegeddon

7. Hailstones, Islands wiped out, mountains razed.

In between the descriptions of all that can go wrong are some interludes. Interlude 1 is at Chapter 7. This describes the calling and sealing of the 144,000 – 12,000 from each tribe of Israel. This 144,000 is mentioned again in Chapter 14.

Interlude 2 is at Chapter 10 and John is given a secret.

Interlude 3 is at Chapter 11 and describes the 2 witnesses.

Rev 11:3  And I will grant authority to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth.”
Rev 11:4  These are the two olive trees and the two lampstands that stand before the Lord of the earth.
Rev 11:5  And if anyone would harm them, fire pours from their mouth and consumes their foes. If anyone would harm them, this is how he is doomed to be killed.
Rev 11:6  They have the power to shut the sky, that no rain may fall during the days of their prophesying, and they have power over the waters to turn them into blood and to strike the earth with every kind of plague, as often as they desire.
Rev 11:7  And when they have finished their testimony, the beast that rises from the bottomless pit will make war on them and conquer them and kill them,
Many believe they will have their ministry in the first 3 1/2 years of the Tribulation period. I tend to agree with this. The major question is who are these 2 people. They could be Elijah and Enoch since neither of them died. They could be people who are alive now and are in the likeness of Moses and Elijah. Either way they are a marker in the tribulation that we are underway. They will be killed and 3 days later they will rise from the dead.

Interlude 4 in Chapter 12 is a sweeping history of Satan and his pursuit of the Israelite s and of course Jesus Himself when He was on earth 2000 years ago. 

Interlude 5 is Chapter 13 and tells us the rise of The beast from the sea. He will be Hitler, Mao, Stalin and Pol Pot all rolled into one. After him will come the beast of the earth – the false prophet and he will compel people to worship the first beast.

 

Ok that is the summary of the end. There is much unrest in the world at the moment. Many governments are going bankrupt and people are losing their jobs. Many young people around the world cannot even find jobs. Protests are rising in many countries.  The USA is losing its power and this is emboldening Putin in Russia. We could be on the verge but all we can o is watch.

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Facts & Opinion

There was a news item a few days ago where some researcher stated that there were mistakes in the Bible. He claimed that camels were only domesticated about 1000BC and that Abraham, Isaac and Jacob could not have had camels. Well really and the evidence for that is ?  Hate to tell this guy but HTF can you claim something like that when we live 4000 years after Abraham and Isaac and 3000 years after your claim. What is it with these people that they want to say the bible has mistakes? Ok I am getting a bit hot under the collar here. I then started to get into a discussion with some dimwit that there are no facts in the bible anyway.

So now I am not going to debate the “facts” or “opinions” of the bible since people want to believe whatever they want anyway. So lets get down to some real down and dirty facts.

http://www.thetravelingteam.org/stateworld/statistics/growth-church

According to this website there are added to the church every year 60 million people. That means there are 60 million new Christians who believe the bible and any amount of “supposed” mistakes are not changing their mind. There are more new people becoming Christians every year than the total number of atheists in the world. So lets ask some questions to the atheists and God haters of the world. What reward do you get for being an atheist and god hater? What makes you give up glory and riches in the Kingdom of God for some bleak unknown future? I liken it to the Pink Floyd song “Wish You Were Here”.

So, so you think you can tell Heaven from Hell, blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field from a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange a walk on part in the war for a lead role in a cage?

People argue evolution V creation – it doesn’t matter because 60 million people per year have faith in God’s Word.

People argue over free will over determinism – It doesn’t matter because 60 million people per year put their faith in the Bible.

People over the centuries have burned the bible yet it is still the world’s best selling book.

Marx has lost, Islam has lost, Atheists have lost. Will you lose your place in the Kingdom because you decided to trade hot air for a cool breeze? You will die one day and you will have to face Jesus. Before throwing you someplace where you can be your own God, you will get a glimpse of what you gave away and see all those people which were part of the 60 million per year who came to Christ and you didn’t. And them folks is the facts.

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Making Judgements Again

I wrote this back in 2010. I wish I know how to pin this to the top but I don’t so instead I will link it.

Have a read

http://ultimatechristianity.wordpress.com/2010/07/16/making-judgements/

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The Heart of God

When people read the bible how do they perceive God? If you read the prophets the perception is one of an angry God, Deuteronomy and Leviticus shows us the legal God, The Gospel of John a compassionate God. Intermixed is varying degrees of these perceptions. When God destroys the earth and almost everything in it we see the God with a big stick. When we see Jesus heal people we see God with a compassionate heart.

We need to be able to see the big picture so we can appreciate the little things that play out. So what is the big picture? The Almighty Ones are sitting around chewing the fat and decide that they want to get their creative side working. So they make a decent house and employ a few billion servants (angels). The servants live in their presence, enjoy the light and the love and they go about their work in joyous harmony. Angels have free will but very little creative capability. One important player is Lucifer, the angel of light. He is the leader of the angels and can do pretty much as he pleases.

Eze 28:12  “Son of man, raise a lamentation over the king of Tyre, and say to him, Thus says the Lord GOD: “You were the signet of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty.
Eze 28:13  You were in Eden, the garden of God; every precious stone was your covering, sardius, topaz, and diamond, beryl, onyx, and jasper, sapphire, emerald, and carbuncle; and crafted in gold were your settings and your engravings. On the day that you were created they were prepared.
Eze 28:14  You were an anointed guardian cherub. I placed you; you were on the holy mountain of God; in the midst of the stones of fire you walked.
Eze 28:15  You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created, till unrighteousness was found in you.

God meanwhile decided to move ahead with another project – Man. He created a very beautiful earth and the universe as we know it today. He created Adam and Eve and set them down in the Garden of Eden and He only had one requirement – Don’t eat from the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. The Tree of Life was also there. Now we get back to Lucifer. Eze 28:17  Your heart was proud because of your beauty; you corrupted your wisdom for the sake of your splendor.  Lucifer became proud in the midst of heaven. He was undoubtedly jealous of Adam and Eve. They had everything the angels had plus more – creativity. He pushed Eve to eat from the TotKoGaE. There was a war in heaven, Lucifer got kicked out and 1/3 of the angels followed. Lucifer became Satan and the fallen angels, demons and they live here with us. That is the overall situation.

Satan hates us mankind and will use fear, humiliation and any other tyrannical device to get us to worship him instead of God. God wants to use love, kindness and other similar devices to get us to worship Him. People have asked me why didn’t Jesus use His power to show us the way. The answer is that if Jesus used the power the people would have submitted in fear. The Father, Son and Holy Spirit do not want submission in fear – they want submission in love. Satan is the submission in fear guy. This is the big picture. When God uses the big stick it is not for us to submit, it is to do a clean out. The earth and everything in it belongs to God so God can do as He likes, when He likes for whatever reason He likes. However He does like to stick to the rules also mainly to show the angels that He is fair. From Adam to Noah there were no rules. According to Enoch, some angels were able to procreate with human females. These produced hideous offspring which corrupted the original world. In my opinion the evil was far worse than anything we have seen in the last 3000 years. God did a clean out. In the new world, I believe he put restrictions on Satan and the demonic horde and probably even restricted Himself.

We see t he rise of Abraham and then the nation of Israel. Then the rules were put in place and the stage was set for the coming of the Son of God. Meanwhile history ebbed and flowed. Evil would take over a bit then righteousness. God knows that worshipping Satan is a BAD thing. The Old Testament prophets are urging the children of Israel to stop worshipping idols and worship God instead. That is why we see and angry God. But he knows best and wants the best and He is not getting through. It was probably very frustrating but God is patient and He would wait a long time before taking action. When the Hittites took Israel is was another clean out. When the Babylonians took Judah it was another clean out. Warning, warning, warning, action.

The heart of God is one of love, mercy, compassion, justice. He created the legal framework that our sins are forgiven and we can enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Our part is to have faith – to believe that the Son of God came in the flesh, that he died and rose again. He wants to make it as easy as possible. Satan wants to make it as hard as possible. That is one of the reasons that there are so many denominations and cults that make us want to jump through hoops.  How easy you ask.

Joh 1:12  But to all who did receive him, who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God,
Joh 1:13  who were born, not of blood nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God.

Joh 3:14  And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up,
Joh 3:15  that whoever believes in him may have eternal life.
Joh 3:16  “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

Rom 10:9  because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
Rom 10:10  For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved.
Rom 10:11  For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.”

Eph 2:8  For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God,
Eph 2:9  not a result of works, so that no one may boast.

Believing in Jesus, faith pleases the Father and this is salvation. The thief on the cross asked Jesus, “Remember me when you come into your Kingdom.” Jesus replied, “Before this day ends you will be with me in Paradise.”

That is the real and true heart of God

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Some Trivia

I have been rereading Parkinsons Law (and Other Studies in Administration) by C. Northcote Parkinson. It is a pretty good set of essays which deal with his observations of the civil service. One of his laws is the Law of Triviality. The general idea is that the more complex an idea being debated the less time is spent on debating that topic. However a lot of commentators miss an important point and that is this.

“People who understand high finance are of two kinds: Those who have vast fortunes of their own and those who have nothing at all.To the actual millionaire a million dollars is something real and comprehensible. To the applied mathematician and  the lecturer in economics (assuming both to be practically starving) a million dollars is at least as real as a thousand, they never having possessed either sum. But the world is full of people who fall between these two categories, knowing nothing of millions but well accustomed to think in thousands, and it is of these that finance committees are mostly comprised. The result is a phenomenon that has often been observed but never yet investigated. It might be termed the Law of Triviality. Briefly stated, it means that the time spent on any item of the agenda will be in inverse proportion to the sum involved.”

He then goes on to give three examples of a Nuclear Power Station costing $10 million, a bike shed costing $2,350 and Refreshments costing $57. The time spent on the Power Station is two and a half minutes, the bike shed is 45 minutes and refreshments for 1 hour and 15 mins and deferred until the next meeting. There are two aspects of this and that is the simplicity of the topic and the amount of money involved. I would like to put aside the simplicity of the topics and just concentrate on the money side.

How many people can visualize $1 million dollars let alone $10 million or $1 billion? Actually very few. Warren Buffet can handle it as can Bill Gates and a few others. When people go shopping for a house how much time is spent on being able to save large chunks of cash? Most people will haggle over the difference between kitchen bench-tops which may save $200 but lose sight of the total cost. How many people when grocery shopping will spend a lot of time trying to save cents on their shopping bill but the next day go shopping for a new car which they may be paying several thousands of dollars more than they should? This is real, the more the price of something is the less the purchaser will spend thinking about how to spend less.

There is an important principle here. How many stories have you read where a person or family who were dirt poor has won a lot of money on the lotteries and not only spent it all but gone bankrupt with many millions in debt. There was a story of such a man in Western Sydney many years ago. He won $10 million on Lotto. He handed out the usual cash to family and friends probably without thinking too much about it. He bought a property out Orange way to grow fruit. He made his next door neighbour the property manager. He also bought a few properties on the Gold Coast for rental purposes. Within 10 years he was bankrupt. He had lost the lot and about $1 million in debt plus he had the police on his doorstep. What happened? Well his next door neighbour who knew nothing about fruit growing decided that cannabis was more lucrative. Of course our lotto winner wasn’t checking up on his new found property manager. He had to liquidate his Gold Coast properties to pay for the farm that was losing money and there you have it -all gone. Why? In my opinion it was because he couldn’t adjust his thinking from trivial to large amounts.

Let us move on the more important people, our politicians. They have to deal with, vote for and allocate BILLIONS and TRILLIONS of dollars depending on the country you are in. Now from the examples above do you have any wonder why these politicians overspend your tax payer money. They CANNOT UNDERSTAND the amounts involved.

I will give you another example. How many people can visualize 1 light year. 1 light year is approx 5,865,696,000,000 miles. Which number is easier to work with? The reason scientists reduce numbers is because they are easier to work with and easier to understand. Large numbers are difficult to comprehend. In Parkinson’s example with the Nuclear Power Station, if Bill Gates was sitting on that finance committee he would have saved some serious cash – stuff the $350 for the bikeshed.

Politicians should not be making decisions about how to spend large amounts of money unless they know how to wisely spend large amounts of their own money without going broke.

What has all this to do with Christianity? OK did you know that Jesus tied in righteousness with being able to handle money?

Luk 19:12  He said therefore, “A nobleman went into a far country to receive for himself a kingdom and then return.
Luk 19:13  Calling ten of his servants, he gave them ten minas, and said to them, ‘Engage in business until I come.’
Luk 19:14  But his citizens hated him and sent a delegation after him, saying, ‘We do not want this man to reign over us.’
Luk 19:15  When he returned, having received the kingdom, he ordered these servants to whom he had given the money to be called to him, that he might know what they had gained by doing business.
Luk 19:16  The first came before him, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made ten minas more.’
Luk 19:17  And he said to him, ‘Well done, good servant! Because you have been faithful in a very little, you shall have authority over ten cities.’
Luk 19:18  And the second came, saying, ‘Lord, your mina has made five minas.’
Luk 19:19  And he said to him, ‘And you are to be over five cities.’
Luk 19:20  Then another came, saying, ‘Lord, here is your mina, which I kept laid away in a handkerchief;
Luk 19:21  for I was afraid of you, because you are a severe man. You take what you did not deposit, and reap what you did not sow.’
Luk 19:22  He said to him, ‘I will condemn you with your own words, you wicked servant! You knew that I was a severe man, taking what I did not deposit and reaping what I did not sow?
Luk 19:23  Why then did you not put my money in the bank, and at my coming I might have collected it with interest?’
Luk 19:24  And he said to those who stood by, ‘Take the mina from him, and give it to the one who has the ten minas.’
Luk 19:25  And they said to him, ‘Lord, he has ten minas!’
Luk 19:26  ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away.
Luk 19:27  But as for these enemies of mine, who did not want me to reign over them, bring them here and slaughter them before me.’”

Think big not petty.

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Karl Marx

My objections to Marx are of two sorts: one, that he was muddle-headed; and the other, that his thinking was almost entirely inspired by hatredBertrand Russell, Portraits From Memory And Other Essays (1956), p. 211

Marx’s economic teachings are essentially a garbled rehash of the theories of Adam Smith and, first of all, of Ricardo.                      Ludwig von Mises (1957), Theory and History: An Interpretation of Social and Economic Evolution

[W]hen Karl Marx, the most consistent translator of the altruist morality into practical action and political theory, advocated a society where all would be sacrificed to all, starting with the immediate immolation of the able, the intelligent, the successful and the wealthy—whatever opposition he did encounter, nobody opposed him on moral grounds. Predominantly, he was granted the status of a noble, but impractical, idealist.               Ayn Rand (1961) For the New Intellectual, NY: Signet

Plenty of people had plenty of things to say about Karl Marx. When I read the Communist Manifesto all I see is a garbled rant. It is very difficult to write coherent objections against ranting. He didn’t like capitalists probably because they had money and he didn’t. Maybe if he had done some work instead of being a rent seeker he may have made some money. The interesting thing about Marx was that he benefactor, Engels, gave him more money to live on and he still managed to spend it all plus some. Sounds like a true socialist. Why do people follow the rantings of this man? Because he created a class of people and that class of people is large enough to identify themselves with his writings. I should reword that – that class of people is large enough to be TOLD that they identify themselves with his writings. The Proletariat  or more succinctly the wage earning working man or woman.  I doubt if any real working person could pick up the communist manifesto and actually get past the first page. He created a collective and the members of that collective liked what they were told about themselves. In reality his manifesto is just a lousy story which has sucked in a lot of people and surprisingly a lot of intellectuals which I suppose goes to show that a high IQ doesn’t equal common sense.

http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/download/pdf/Manifesto.pdf

“I. Bourgeois and Proletarians
The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an
uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.”
Marx must have read different history books to the ones I read. Full of struggles yes but for many varied reasons. Troy was a battle over the love of a woman. Expanding then contracting empires, kings against kings, nations against nations. Class struggles are barely mentioned in history books. The meaning of ‘Bourgeois’ in the manifesto are the capitalist class – the entrepreneurs if you like. I think Marx was lying at this point. Marx knew French and he knew that bourgeois was the aristocracy. The aristocracy was a far larger group of people than the capitalists. The next 4 pages is a rant against these capitalists and I can’t see one bit of truth in that rant.
 
“In proportion as the bourgeoisie, i.e., capital, is developed, in the same proportion is the proletariat, the modern working class, developed – a class of labourers, who live only so long as they find work, and who find work only so long as their labour increases capital. These labourers, who must sell themselves piecemeal, are a commodity, like every other article of commerce, and
are consequently exposed to all the vicissitudes of competition, to all the fluctuations of the market.”
At least Marx found some truth. Yes labour is a commodity. We offer our labour for a return of something. If we don’t like what is returned to us then we go somewhere else. The labour market works like any other market. If labourors are many than wages are low, if labourors are few then wages are high. It is called supply and demand. Somehow Marx missed that in his economic classes.
 
We now move on to book 2
“In this sense, the theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.We Communists have been reproached with the desire of abolishing the right of personally acquiring property as the fruit of a man’s own labour, which property is alleged to be the groundwork of all personal freedom, activity and independence. Hard-won, self-acquired, self-earned property! Doyou mean the property of petty artisan and ofthe small peasant, a form of property that preceded the bourgeois form? There is no need to abolish that; the development of industry has to a great extent already destroyed it, and is still destroying it daily.
Or do you mean the modern bourgeois private property? But does wage-labour create any property for the labourer? Not a bit. It creates capital, i.e., that kind of property which exploits wage-labour,and which cannot increase except upon condition of begetting a new supply of wage-labour for fresh exploitation. Property, in its present form, is based based on the antagonism of capital and wage
labour. Let us examine both sides of this antagonism. To be a capitalist, is to have not only a purely personal, but a social status in production. Capital is a collective product, and only by the united action of many members, nay, in the last resort,only by the united action of all members of society, can it be set in motion. Capital is therefore not only personal; it is a social power. When, therefore, capital is converted into common property, into the property of all members of society, personal property is not thereby transformed into social property. It is only the social character of the property that is changed. It loses its class character.”
Karl Marx obviously didn’t check out the property of the factory workers. They owned houses also. Sure there were many that didn’t but there were plenty that did. I somehow doubt that those workers were going to share their hard earned property with someone else. He then goes on about the abolition of families and how workers will be free. Of course we have the hindsight of history and we know how that works out. I wonder how Karl Marx would enjoy being a worker in North Korea today.
 
By Page 26 he summarizes what will happen when every country becomes communist.
“Nevertheless, in most advanced countries, the following will be pretty generally applicable.
1. Abolition of property in land and application of all rents of land to public purposes.
2. A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.
3. Abolition of all rights of inheritance.
4. Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.
5. Centralisation of credit in the hands of the state, by means of a national bank with State capital and an exclusive monopoly.
6. Centralisation of the means of communication and transport in the hands of the State.
7. Extension of factories and instruments of production owned by the State; the bringing into cultivation of waste-lands, and the improvement of the soil generally in accordance with a common plan.
8. Equal liability of all to work. Establishment of industrial armies, especially for agriculture.
9. Combination of agriculture with manufacturing industries; gradual abolition of all the distinction between town and country by a more equable distribution of the populace over the country.
10. Free education for all children in public schools. Abolition of children’s factory labour in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, &c, &c.
 
The Communists disdain to conceal their views and aims. They openly declare that their ends can be attained only by the forcible overthrow of all existing social conditions. Let the ruling classes tremble at a Communistic revolution. The proletarians have nothing to lose but their chains. They have a world to win.
Working Men of All Countries, Unite!”
 
Further on in the document is the Communist Confession of Faith. There is nothing really new except for Questions 4&5
 
“Question 4
: On what do you base your community of property?
Answer
: Firstly, on the mass of productive forces and means of subsistence resulting from the development of industry, agriculture, trade and colonisation, and on the possibility inherent in machinery, chemical and other resources of their infinite extension.
Secondly, on the fact that in the consciousness or feeling of every individual there exist certain irrefutable basic principles
which, being the result of the whole of historical development, require no proof.
Question 5
: What are such principles?
Answer
: For example, every individual strives to be happy. The happiness of the individual is inseparable from the happiness of all, etc.”

  Since when does my happiness depend on someone Else’s happiness????  Karl Marx failed to understand the human condition. He failed to understand the psychology of human needs and wants. We gain satisfaction from our OWN achievements not someone elses. Did you know that Jesus wants us to be ambitious and a little selfish.

Mat 6:19  “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal,
Mat 6:20  but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal.
Mat 6:21  For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
There you go, you can lay up treasure in heaven. Jesus must be a capitalist.
 
History has shown that Karl Marx got everything wrong and yet we have millions of people today who are adherents of his stuff. Are they blind or what. They indoctrinate this stuff into our young people at university. The vast majority of teachers are adherents of Karl Marx and indoctrinate our kids from primary school to high school. We had 6 years of communist thinking from K. Rudd and J. Gillard as our Prime Ministers and they sent our country down the toilet which could take years to recover from. We can see what Obama is doing in the USA. Marxism is a spiritual battle and must be fought in the spirit by Christians.
My first post in this series was comparing collectivism with individualism. We must understand this to be able to fight Marxism. There are many Christians who are collectivists but don’t know or understand it. Whenever you agree with someone that doing something is for the GOOD of a particular group then you are belonging to a collective. Being an individual is also allowing others to be individuals. Example: There are many fat people. These fat people eat too much fatty foods. Ban fatty foods (I believe the FDA is looking into this now). When a certain group of people decide that they know what is best for another group then that is collectivism in action.
 
Ok that is it. There is much more to add for example Marx didn’t set down any rules for leaders. So we got Stalin, Mao etc. Marx talsk about freedom when really  you become a slave and tool for the state to do whatever it says. I didn’t even talk about Dialectic Materialism which is a form of debate that communists use. It is kinda like pound the table. LOL.
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The Beginnings of Marxism

One interesting things is finding out where the terms left and right came from in politics. It all started with the French when those politicians who supported the King stood to the right and those who were opposed to the King stood to the left. Those who stood to the right were the conservatives and those that stood to the left were the liberals and radicals who wanted to change society. Since that time the right are still the conservatives but the left has morphed into the socialists which also includes the liberals and radicals.

The beginnings of socialism can be traced back to Plato and his book The Republic. Plato’s highest form of government is the Aristocracy.                                                                       “The aristocratic state that Plato idealizes is composed of three caste-like parts: the ruling class, made up of the aforementioned philosophers-kings (who are otherwise identified as having souls of gold); the auxiliaries of the ruling caste, made up of soldiers (whose souls are made up of silver), and whose job in the state is to force on the majority the order established by the philosophers; and the majority of the people (souls of either bronze or iron), who in contrast to the first two classes are allowed to own property and produce goods for themselves, but are also obliged to sustain with their own activities their rulers’ – who are forbidden from owning property.”                                                                                      As you can see the the ‘wise ruler’ who makes the rules, soldiers who force the rules and the rest who should follow the rules. Aristotle is also fairly important in Marxist theory since it was him that put forward the ideas on logic and reason.

Fast forward about 2000 years and the rise of philosophy in the late middle ages. Jean-Jacques Rousseau (28 June 1712 – 2 July 1778) and he built on Plato. One of the most read books is The Social Contract or the Political Right. Apart from it rambling on a bit it is basically the blueprint for individuals to bind themselves to a Sovereign to form a State. The Sovereign being a very wise person (hoho) leads the people and the state into Utopia. He also states that private property is bad. Rousseau was a Statist and unfortunately the French Revolution was birthed through his ideas. RobesPierre quite liked his ideas.

During this time the Utopian Socialists were putting out their writings. They envisaged society where all people shared their wealth and worked for each other. A man called Robert Owen who did many reforms in the 19th century tried to start up one of these colonies in the USA. It failed after 2 years.

Another of Marx’s ideas came from the Young Hegelians. This group came out with such outstanding works that said the History of Jesus was a myth. This led to Marx and his famous quote that religion is the opiate of the masses. One of the major players in Marx’s life was Engels. This was actually quite ironic since Engels was a business man who supported Marx monetary wise. So we have a man who supported Marx who came out with Marxism that was against capitalism.

This is just a small linkage in the chain but you can build on how collectivism via Statism was accepted as the normal state of affairs in the minds of philosophers and that activists then took these ideas and ran with them. Karl Marx added one more idea and that was he thought he could control capitalism. His ideas in Das Kapital was that the supply/demand curves could be flattened and prices within the economy could be manipulated to remain flat. That didn’t work also but there are people today who still believe they can make it happen.

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